1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:16,870 [Music] 2 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:19,429 and hello from philadelphia frank here 3 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:22,000 with yet another episode of ufo news 4 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:23,359 network sunday 5 00:00:30,070 --> 00:00:26,560 well we're in the final countdown if 6 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:30,080 the ufo report from the military 7 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:33,120 and intelligence agencies uh drop 8 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:35,520 within the allotted time frame that will 9 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:38,239 be within the next two weeks so 10 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:39,840 let's take a closer look at this 11 00:00:44,549 --> 00:00:42,160 countdown that will we see it on time 12 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:44,559 will it be early will it be late well 13 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:45,440 let's go over 14 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:48,960 a couple of quick things firstly 15 00:00:52,470 --> 00:00:50,960 president biden is over in europe he's 16 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:52,480 at the g7 conference 17 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:54,079 and he's going to be staying in europe 18 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:56,320 until next wednesday 19 00:01:00,229 --> 00:00:58,320 so he's going to be meeting with 20 00:01:02,790 --> 00:01:00,239 vladimir putin at that point 21 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:02,800 so i don't think this report is going to 22 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:04,879 be dropped before he gets back 23 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:07,200 so i certainly i don't expect it to 24 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:09,200 happen 25 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:11,360 next week at all so i don't think the 26 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:13,040 report will come out for those reasons 27 00:01:17,109 --> 00:01:13,360 uh 28 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:17,119 enough they're not going to drop 29 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:21,280 this ufo stink bomb and i'll get into 30 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:23,680 uh some more reasons why i consider that 31 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:24,840 to be the case 32 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:28,479 uh as we go further along but this ufo 33 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:29,360 stink bomb 34 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:30,880 is not going to be dropped while he's at 35 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:33,280 the g7 it's not going to be dropped 36 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:36,640 while he's meeting with putin so we're 37 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,200 looking at 38 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:39,600 tim being meeting with putin next 39 00:01:42,789 --> 00:01:40,880 wednesday 40 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,799 so you know then he's got to come back 41 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:44,799 he's probably got his older guy he's got 42 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:46,240 to rest up a little bit 43 00:01:50,069 --> 00:01:48,159 so i i don't expect it to come out at 44 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:50,079 all i'd be shocked if it came out at all 45 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:50,960 next week 46 00:01:54,149 --> 00:01:53,280 and really the week after that is the 47 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:54,159 week that 48 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:57,360 is the deadline uh the week ending 49 00:02:03,510 --> 00:02:00,399 on friday the 25th that's your deadline 50 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:03,520 so uh will we see it that week well 51 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:05,520 uh there's a couple reasons that i think 52 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:08,080 we will number one it's the deadline 53 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:11,200 now marco rubio has in the past said 54 00:02:13,589 --> 00:02:11,599 that 55 00:02:15,350 --> 00:02:13,599 these types of reports they're often 56 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:15,360 delayed uh they're often 57 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:17,680 not on time so it's no big deal he said 58 00:02:20,309 --> 00:02:19,440 that in one of the early interviews that 59 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:20,319 he gave 60 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:22,480 well this report's a little bit 61 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:24,000 different number one 62 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:26,080 it's already gotten uh some significant 63 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:27,520 media attention 64 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:29,760 so uh i don't think they'll want to 65 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:31,680 delay this report really 66 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:34,080 also the new york times leakage of some 67 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:34,879 details 68 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:37,280 that the basically uh the reports it 69 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:38,560 sounds like it's pretty well done they 70 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:39,280 might have to 71 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:41,519 uh do some edits uh change some things 72 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:42,480 here and there 73 00:02:46,869 --> 00:02:45,040 but i think uh the uh the the body the 74 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:46,879 overwhelming majority of the report 75 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:49,360 is finished and they just have to go 76 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:51,599 through a few quick things it's probably 77 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:53,120 finished right now that would be my 78 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:53,760 guess 79 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:56,000 and that they're just waiting for the uh 80 00:02:59,350 --> 00:02:57,040 the best moment 81 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:59,360 uh as far as they're concerned uh when 82 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:00,080 it's most 83 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:02,480 advantageous to them uh to get it out 84 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:04,400 there and like i said i don't think 85 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:05,920 uh for the reasons that i already 86 00:03:10,309 --> 00:03:08,319 discussed with biden you know uh his 87 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:10,319 first trip overseas he's a 88 00:03:13,350 --> 00:03:12,720 uh first g7 summit for a summit with 89 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:13,360 putin 90 00:03:17,110 --> 00:03:15,440 uh and he's gonna have to come back the 91 00:03:18,869 --> 00:03:17,120 17th 92 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:18,879 and he's going to want to bask in the 93 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:20,879 the glory of his being a world leader 94 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:21,840 for a little bit 95 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:25,120 so i don't think that we'll see it next 96 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:25,920 week 97 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:29,519 21st actually i think it'll just come 98 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:30,000 out 99 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:31,920 right on time you know that's what i'm 100 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:33,440 thinking right now it'll come out on 101 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,080 time 102 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:36,720 uh the the day is the 25th so it might 103 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:38,400 come out a day early might come out 104 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:40,480 a couple days early but i think they'll 105 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:41,599 get it out then 106 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:44,879 uh the reason why again i don't think 107 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:46,000 it'll be delayed 108 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:48,080 okay you're looking at the next week is 109 00:03:51,190 --> 00:03:50,000 a holiday week it's a fourth of july 110 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:51,200 weekend coming up 111 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:53,360 so i don't i don't think i don't think 112 00:03:56,309 --> 00:03:55,680 they'll release this ufo stink bomb 113 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:56,319 report 114 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:59,680 on uh the fourth of july weekend and 115 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:01,599 they can't hold it too much because the 116 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:03,120 press is starting to pressure them a 117 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:03,840 little bit 118 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:08,239 report's release 119 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:11,040 so it's got to come out eventually 120 00:04:14,149 --> 00:04:12,000 they'll pick 121 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:14,159 what they think is the most opportune 122 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,200 time to do it 123 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:17,199 and my thinking is it that worked out 124 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:18,400 pretty nicely that the 125 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:21,519 uh the 180 days uh is up 126 00:04:26,550 --> 00:04:25,280 uh uh the this uh this next coming week 127 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:26,560 so i think 128 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:28,560 i i think that it'll come out on time 129 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:29,840 that's what i'm thinking i could be 130 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:30,400 wrong 131 00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:32,560 again i'm not predicting i predict i'd 132 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:33,520 be shocked 133 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:35,919 if it comes out at all next week and 134 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:38,080 then the week after they start delaying 135 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:38,800 things and 136 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:41,120 get it into the holiday and then they're 137 00:04:43,590 --> 00:04:42,000 looking at a 138 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:43,600 if they wait past the holiday they're 139 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:45,199 looking at what 140 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:48,080 a 10-day two-week or maybe longer delay 141 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:49,759 and that's just going to ratchet up the 142 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:50,800 attention 143 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:52,960 that i don't think that these guys want 144 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:55,280 and again i'll go into more details 145 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:57,600 about why that is as it comes out so 146 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:59,759 yeah i i do think that that's what we 147 00:05:02,710 --> 00:05:00,240 have 148 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,720 coming i think it'll be if i had to put 149 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:04,320 a dollar on it i would bet 150 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:07,680 on time not early and not too late for 151 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:09,199 the reasons that i outlined it seems 152 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:11,360 like that's a nice little window there 153 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:13,280 that week ending in the 25th that's a 154 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:14,560 nice little window 155 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:16,639 for them to finally get this thing out 156 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:18,240 and uh you know 157 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:21,120 they got to release the stink bomb and i 158 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:22,080 think 159 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:23,520 it's looking to me like uh that's the 160 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:25,759 best opportunity for them to do it 161 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:28,400 so uh there's that and then we've also 162 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:29,199 got uh 163 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:31,520 talking a little bit more uh detail 164 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:33,919 about the content so we know that there 165 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:36,960 uh 120 cases uh they're 166 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:40,000 give or take are going to be covered in 167 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:42,800 the report and mostly apparently they're 168 00:05:45,430 --> 00:05:44,720 from the navy based on the new york 169 00:05:48,469 --> 00:05:45,440 times 170 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:48,479 uh reporting uh from a week or so ago 171 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:53,120 and we'll see how that goes but again 172 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:56,240 you know rubio had stated a while back 173 00:06:01,510 --> 00:05:58,400 that he wants to know what they are 174 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:01,520 and i want to know what happened at 175 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:03,280 stephenville i want to know what that 176 00:06:05,830 --> 00:06:03,759 was 177 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:05,840 it'll be very interesting to see the 178 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:08,160 level of the air force contribution to 179 00:06:12,390 --> 00:06:09,360 this report 180 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:12,400 in general and specifically will that 181 00:06:16,469 --> 00:06:12,800 case 182 00:06:18,309 --> 00:06:16,479 even be mentioned as i've gone over here 183 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:18,319 on this show at infinitum i don't want 184 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:19,600 to repeat uh 185 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:21,680 repeat it all all over again but 186 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:23,600 basically you've got confirmed 187 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:26,560 uh several ground witnesses uh seeing 188 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:26,960 this 189 00:06:31,270 --> 00:06:29,199 very unusual ufo in the stephenville 190 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:31,280 erath county texas area 191 00:06:39,270 --> 00:06:35,919 back in 2008 a radar report foyed out 192 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:39,280 that indicates a fast-moving 1900 to 193 00:06:44,309 --> 00:06:40,960 2000 mile an hour 194 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:44,319 ufo traveling over that area with a size 195 00:06:48,629 --> 00:06:45,840 estimated 196 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:48,639 at a minimum based on the the radar uh 197 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:50,080 reports of a 198 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:53,280 500 feet uh follow-up from the a-tip 199 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:55,120 program when it was operational they 200 00:07:00,790 --> 00:06:57,120 were able to track down the identity 201 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:00,800 of two pilots to f-16 air force pilots 202 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,080 who chased this particular object and 203 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:06,560 uh the the pilots gave them the brush 204 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:07,759 they stonewalled them 205 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:10,080 they would not talk to atip because they 206 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:11,440 said that they had signed 207 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:14,000 uh non-disclosure agreements with who we 208 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:14,880 don't know 209 00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:17,919 uh and what what they encountered we 210 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:19,599 don't know but we want to know 211 00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:21,520 i don't want to know what they are i 212 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:22,960 want to know what that was 213 00:07:26,469 --> 00:07:25,840 so that's that and let's uh let's move 214 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:26,479 forward 215 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:29,840 to our next topic so within the last 216 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:31,120 week or so sam 217 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:33,840 harris who's uh regarded as uh something 218 00:07:36,629 --> 00:07:34,240 of a 219 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:36,639 an intellectual in some circles has 220 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:37,919 started talking in 221 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:40,880 uh detail about the ufos and what he was 222 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:41,840 thinking about it 223 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:45,120 and he seems to be a rather convinced 224 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:45,520 that 225 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:47,759 we are are actually on the verge of some 226 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:48,960 sort of disclosure 227 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:51,039 uh you know i hope he's right about that 228 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:52,720 he does seem to be wrong about a few 229 00:07:57,189 --> 00:07:54,080 things he's uh 230 00:07:59,189 --> 00:07:57,199 you know an atheist who argues with 231 00:08:01,029 --> 00:07:59,199 uh various religious folks about their 232 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:01,039 religion and that points out to how 233 00:08:05,029 --> 00:08:02,080 terrible they are 234 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:05,039 uh christianity islam and all that uh 235 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:06,400 you know 236 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:07,919 basically uh that was the sort of thing 237 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:09,520 i was doing when i was 12 238 00:08:13,909 --> 00:08:12,080 you know so now so now i'm on this so uh 239 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:13,919 what are you going to do about that 240 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:16,800 but anyway he has made some interesting 241 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:18,560 comments apparently he has been 242 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:20,879 reached out to he has a big following 243 00:08:24,309 --> 00:08:22,879 and uh they think that 244 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:24,319 apparently some people are reaching out 245 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:26,400 to him who are a little bit more clued 246 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:28,080 in about the ufo stuff 247 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:31,599 and uh trying to persuade him not to be 248 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:33,360 something of a thought leader on this 249 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:36,080 issue apparently so let's go to uh some 250 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:37,519 of sam's comments 251 00:08:42,310 --> 00:08:40,640 and we've got those uh lined up here and 252 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:42,320 uh let's uh let's give a listen to what 253 00:08:45,430 --> 00:08:43,120 uh sam is 254 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:45,440 saying about ufo stuff there's no 255 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:47,600 telling 256 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:49,760 what spooky things may in fact be true i 257 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:50,560 don't know if you've been on the 258 00:08:54,630 --> 00:08:51,680 receiving end of 259 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:54,640 you know recent rumors about our 260 00:08:58,630 --> 00:08:56,640 conversation about ufos 261 00:09:00,070 --> 00:08:58,640 very likely changing in the near term 262 00:09:01,350 --> 00:09:00,080 right but like there was just a 263 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:01,360 washington post article 264 00:09:05,910 --> 00:09:03,760 and a new yorker article and you know 265 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,920 i've received some private outreach and 266 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:07,200 perhaps you have i 267 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:11,200 know other people in our our orbit have 268 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:13,200 people who are claiming that the 269 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:15,040 government has known much more about 270 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:15,920 ufos 271 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,200 than they have led on until now and 272 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:21,120 this conversation is actually is about 273 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:22,399 to become more prominent 274 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:25,839 you know and it's it's not going to be 275 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:28,240 whatever you know whoever's left 276 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:29,839 standing when the music stops 277 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:33,600 it's not going to be a comfortable 278 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:37,760 position to be in as a 279 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:40,640 super rigorous scientific skeptic saying 280 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:41,920 there's no there who's been saying 281 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:42,880 there's no there there 282 00:09:46,870 --> 00:09:45,440 for the last well let's uh let's stop 283 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:46,880 that right there because i think that 284 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:47,440 that's a 285 00:09:50,949 --> 00:09:49,920 a rather telling comment or rather 286 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:50,959 interesting 287 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:54,640 because what harris seems to be saying 288 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:56,640 here and i might be wrong about this but 289 00:10:00,870 --> 00:09:58,560 what harris seems to be saying here is 290 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,880 uh the biggest problem with disclosure 291 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:02,880 is that a lot of the intelligentsia a 292 00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:04,320 lot of scientists 293 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:06,320 a lot of quote unquote intelligent 294 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:08,399 people are going to look stupid with all 295 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:08,880 that 296 00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:18,640 it's always nice to see a lot of uh 297 00:10:21,269 --> 00:10:20,720 pompous full of themselves intellectual 298 00:10:24,550 --> 00:10:21,279 types 299 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:24,560 uh get uh get deflated so if that's 300 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:26,160 if that's the biggest problem with 301 00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:27,920 disclosure 302 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:30,480 disclose baby because again it's icing 303 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:31,279 on the cake 304 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:33,360 not a problem but uh let's let's keep 305 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:34,800 going and listen to the rest of what he 306 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:35,920 has to say here 307 00:10:39,829 --> 00:10:38,240 it's 75 years all right you know like 308 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:39,839 like 309 00:10:46,310 --> 00:10:45,360 the office of naval intelligence and the 310 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:46,320 pentagon 311 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:49,120 are very likely to say to congress at 312 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:50,720 some point in the not too distant future 313 00:10:55,910 --> 00:10:51,920 that 314 00:11:00,150 --> 00:10:55,920 technology flying around 315 00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:00,160 here that seems like it can't possibly 316 00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:02,880 possibly be of human origin right now i 317 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:04,320 don't know what i'm gonna do with that 318 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:06,000 kind of disclosure right maybe it's just 319 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:07,040 it's gonna 320 00:11:14,949 --> 00:11:11,920 conversation to really have but 321 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:14,959 that is such a powerfully strange 322 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:17,440 circumstance to be in right i mean it's 323 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:18,320 just 324 00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:19,680 what are we going to do with that if in 325 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:22,320 fact that's what happens right 326 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:25,680 if in fact the the considered opinion 327 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:28,000 despite the the embarrassment it causes 328 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:28,959 them 329 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:32,480 of that's that he does make an 330 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:33,600 interesting point there the 331 00:11:39,110 --> 00:11:35,440 embarrassment that it causes them 332 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:39,120 uh i'm going to get into more of that 333 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,880 later in the show but let's continue on 334 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:42,720 with sam the u.s 335 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:44,560 government of all of our intelligence 336 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:46,560 all the relevant intelligence services 337 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:50,160 is that this isn't a hoax 338 00:11:53,509 --> 00:11:52,000 it's too there's too much data to 339 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:53,519 suggest that it's a hoax we've got too 340 00:11:58,470 --> 00:11:53,920 much 341 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,480 satellite data whatever data whatever 342 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:00,320 data they actually have there's too much 343 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:01,600 of it 344 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:04,320 all we can say now is something's going 345 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:04,800 on 346 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:08,959 and there's no way it's the chinese or 347 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:10,720 the russians or 348 00:12:17,190 --> 00:12:15,120 anyone else's technology that should 349 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:17,200 that should arrest our attention you 350 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:18,480 know collectively 351 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,800 to to a degree that nothing in our 352 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:22,560 lifetime has and now 353 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,399 the other shoe hasn't quite dropped here 354 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:26,240 but there was recently a 355 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:28,560 an article in the in the washington post 356 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:29,760 this may have been covered 357 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:32,160 many other places but i saw it there 358 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,880 that the 359 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:34,320 office of naval intelligence and the 360 00:12:40,710 --> 00:12:37,600 pentagon are scheduled to brief 361 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:40,720 congress about the wealth of data 362 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:44,800 the government has on ufos all right 363 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:47,120 okay this is uh from a second show where 364 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:48,160 is talking about this 365 00:12:51,190 --> 00:12:50,079 i guess this is his own show where he's 366 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:51,200 talking about this 367 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:54,000 uh the first part of the interview or 368 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:54,800 the first 369 00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:56,720 interview was with lex friedman this is 370 00:13:01,670 --> 00:12:58,240 from his own show 371 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:01,680 where uh he i guess he co-hosts with 372 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:03,680 one of the unfunniest people on planet 373 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:05,200 earth ricky gervais so 374 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:06,959 let's uh let's listen into what he has 375 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,480 to say here and stuff 376 00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:11,040 leaked or was leaked purposely during 377 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:12,639 this last year 378 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:14,639 and got surprisingly little attention 379 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:16,639 but the rumors that i've heard 380 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:18,560 and again this is still just in the in 381 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:19,680 the mode of rumors 382 00:13:23,509 --> 00:13:21,600 but perhaps soon to be confirmed is that 383 00:13:24,790 --> 00:13:23,519 the our intelligence services and the 384 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:24,800 pentagon 385 00:13:30,389 --> 00:13:28,480 are going to tell congress that 386 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:30,399 this is real right this is a real 387 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:32,160 phenomenon right this is not it's not 388 00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:33,120 that 389 00:13:37,110 --> 00:13:36,079 ufos have been explained to the 390 00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:37,120 satisfaction 391 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:39,519 of the government on the contrary they'd 392 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:41,440 have to change their name 393 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:45,440 they have seen that there's technology 394 00:13:50,389 --> 00:13:48,639 that really can't be of human origin 395 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:50,399 right they don't think this is the 396 00:13:52,790 --> 00:13:52,000 chinese or the north koreans or some 397 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:52,800 other 398 00:13:56,790 --> 00:13:54,880 part of human society producing 399 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:56,800 technology that is strange and they 400 00:14:00,710 --> 00:13:57,920 can't write it off 401 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:00,720 as anomalies of perception and there's 402 00:14:04,069 --> 00:14:02,560 just just too much radar 403 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:04,079 data there's too much satellite imagery 404 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:05,440 at this point and the stuff they're 405 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:06,880 sitting on that's top secret 406 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:08,720 is much better than anything that's been 407 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:10,320 leaked out this is probably premature to 408 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:11,519 even talk about this but you know i have 409 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:12,800 someone reached out to me 410 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:14,720 and has assured me that you know i'm 411 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:16,560 going to be on a zoom call with 412 00:14:19,829 --> 00:14:18,800 you know former heads of you know the 413 00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:19,839 cia and 414 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:21,440 office of naval research and with people 415 00:14:25,189 --> 00:14:22,880 you know whose 416 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:25,199 bonafides are very easy to track and 417 00:14:27,509 --> 00:14:26,800 they're they're concerned about the 418 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:27,519 messaging 419 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:29,839 around all of this to the public and 420 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:30,720 dampening down 421 00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:33,040 panic and and conspiracy theories and 422 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:34,639 but the 423 00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:37,360 well i'm gonna jump in here and say i 424 00:14:40,389 --> 00:14:38,160 don't doubt 425 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,399 for a second that uh somebody reached 426 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:42,480 out to sam and told him that 427 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:45,920 uh i'm not sure about this zoom call 428 00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:47,120 with former intel 429 00:14:53,110 --> 00:14:50,639 chiefs uh somebody might be pulling his 430 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:53,120 leg a little bit here maybe not uh maybe 431 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:55,199 he he got the straight dope we'll get 432 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:56,560 into a little bit more of that in the 433 00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:57,440 next segment but 434 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:59,519 let's keep going with sam what is being 435 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:00,720 promised here 436 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:04,000 is a disclosure that is frankly 437 00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:05,760 either the most alarming or the most 438 00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:07,040 interesting thing in the world 439 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:09,839 depending on your how you take it but 440 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:10,160 it's 441 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:13,839 not a representation of the facts that 442 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:15,040 will give 443 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:18,160 scientific skeptics any comfort and 444 00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:18,720 that's just 445 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:20,959 you know we're faced with the prospect 446 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:22,639 of having to apologize 447 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:24,160 to the people we've been laughing at for 448 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:26,320 the last 50 years who 449 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:28,560 well there we go and uh yeah apology 450 00:15:31,749 --> 00:15:29,440 accepted sam 451 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:31,759 no problem there you know yeah we were 452 00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:33,040 ahead of the curve on this 453 00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:35,759 uh sorry about that uh everybody who 454 00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:36,560 made fun of 455 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:38,560 people who were into ufos or dismissed 456 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:40,000 it out of hand or didn't pay any 457 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,959 attention to it 458 00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:42,720 ah you had your chance so what can i 459 00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,040 tell you but that's uh basically 460 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:47,279 uh those are those are sam's comments 461 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:49,120 again he's got kind of a controversial 462 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:49,680 guy 463 00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:51,920 i don't uh i don't really have any 464 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:53,199 problem with what he's saying here i 465 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:54,880 thought like i said about that zoom call 466 00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:56,160 i think somebody might be 467 00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:57,920 uh pulling his leg maybe not but at 468 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:00,079 least i hold that out as a possibility 469 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:03,440 and generally speaking uh his comments 470 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:04,720 on ufos are 471 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:07,680 uh okay except for the part that i think 472 00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:08,160 he 473 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:11,360 uh betrays a truly elitist attitude uh 474 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:13,120 by saying uh the biggest problem with 475 00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:13,600 all this 476 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:15,600 is uh that uh some smart people are 477 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:17,440 going to get embarrassed well 478 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:20,399 boo hoo and uh there's another fellow 479 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,440 who 480 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:23,279 runs around in these intellectual 481 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:25,600 circles named eric weinstein 482 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:28,800 and he is spending most of his time on 483 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,440 twitter 484 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:31,120 really engaging people pretty 485 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:32,880 aggressively 486 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:36,320 he is a mathematician and uh runs uh 487 00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:36,800 field 488 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:39,440 capital a an investment firm as the 489 00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:41,360 managing director of that and he's also 490 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:42,079 uh 491 00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:43,839 you know one of these online guys 492 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:45,839 thought influencers and so on and so 493 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:46,320 forth 494 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,480 uh so uh he's another one of these guys 495 00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,560 a sort of 496 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:52,639 gravitate around the roughly the circle 497 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:54,480 the jordan peterson types the ben 498 00:16:58,629 --> 00:16:55,680 shapiro types 499 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:58,639 uh intellectuals who uh maybe uh lean a 500 00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:59,839 little bit to the right 501 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:02,240 uh in terms of a lot of their attitudes 502 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:04,000 uh but uh by and large 503 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:06,720 uh yeah you know hey uh if you want to 504 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:07,360 jump in 505 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:09,120 you're more than welcome to do it uh to 506 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:11,039 be honest with you just having a 507 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:13,120 a big audience isn't that big a deal to 508 00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:15,120 tell you the truth uh 509 00:17:18,549 --> 00:17:17,439 demi lovato has a big audience too and 510 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,559 uh you know i certainly 511 00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:20,880 will welcome my welcome her and as some 512 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:23,039 of her ideas about society 513 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:24,880 in general seem a little bit better than 514 00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:26,240 at least harris's uh 515 00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,559 in terms of her support for uh gay 516 00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:30,799 rights and anti-bullying and her 517 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:33,840 uh contributions to uh various worthy 518 00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:34,720 causes 519 00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:37,280 i hold her at least as a person in a 520 00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:39,039 little bit higher regard than i do 521 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:41,600 uh harris uh uh but uh you know hey 522 00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:42,559 welcome aboard 523 00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:44,559 that's all i can say about that and uh 524 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,480 let's uh get to our final topic of the 525 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:48,640 day 526 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,400 uh one of the interesting things and one 527 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:51,840 of the great things about 528 00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:55,200 being a ufo uh researcher is 529 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:58,640 that lots of different people from lots 530 00:18:02,390 --> 00:17:59,679 of different 531 00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:02,400 professional backgrounds are getting to 532 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:03,600 the point where 533 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:06,240 they're talking credibly about ufos and 534 00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:07,200 it's interesting to get their 535 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:08,400 perspective 536 00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:10,720 and this bring their skill sets to the 537 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:11,840 table and 538 00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:14,559 offer up their interpretations i don't 539 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,840 agree with all of them 540 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:17,600 but this one in particular was pretty 541 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:19,120 interesting now 542 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:22,640 uh within the past week 543 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,240 this link to this youtube video was 544 00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:28,720 posted in one of the ufo groups over at 545 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:29,600 facebook 546 00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:31,840 and initially i was very skeptical it's 547 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:33,520 a by a group of 548 00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:36,720 former uh government uh intel 549 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:39,679 analysts who focus on body language and 550 00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,280 they've got a pretty good following at 551 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:43,039 youtube i've never heard of the guys 552 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,760 before 553 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:45,600 but they've got a good following over 554 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:46,880 there and it's 555 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:48,960 four of them and basically what they do 556 00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:50,720 is they look at videos of people being 557 00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:51,520 interviewed 558 00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:54,320 and they analyze their body language now 559 00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:54,960 i've 560 00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:56,799 always been a little skeptical i'm 561 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:58,480 actually skeptical about most things i 562 00:19:02,630 --> 00:18:59,919 think uh perhaps because 563 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:02,640 i'm a ufo buff that uh you wouldn't 564 00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:03,520 think that but 565 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:05,600 actually i'm really skeptical i came 566 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:08,160 into all this uh uh pretty skeptical but 567 00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:10,080 uh just uh the information that i was 568 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,840 able to turn up satisfied me and the 569 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:12,960 rest is history 570 00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:16,320 but as far as these guys go they are 571 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:18,880 uh body language analysts among other 572 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:19,919 things apparently 573 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:21,760 but they also do this i've always been 574 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:24,160 skeptical of this process it's hardly a 575 00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:24,960 science 576 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:26,960 uh maybe a little bit of an art form 577 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:29,039 just uh reading people 578 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,840 but these guys did an entire video and 579 00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:33,520 it's a long one i'm obviously not gonna 580 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,039 play the same thing i'm gonna 581 00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:37,440 post the link so if you want to you can 582 00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:38,960 go over but like i said 583 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:41,679 i went in skeptical and the full video 584 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:44,000 was an hour and 40 minutes long 585 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:46,640 and i would uh i ended up watching the 586 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,679 whole thing not 587 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:49,440 not in one sitting i had to do this and 588 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:51,200 do that so it took me a little while to 589 00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:52,160 get through the whole thing 590 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:54,080 but actually i was pretty fascinated 591 00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:55,600 what they did 592 00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:58,799 was they took uh various interviews with 593 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:01,679 uh key uh public figures are you talking 594 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:03,440 about presidents you're talking about uh 595 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:04,240 former 596 00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:07,600 uh directors of uh intel agencies those 597 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,559 level guys 598 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:10,960 and they took those interviews and 599 00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:11,760 basically 600 00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:13,679 went through each one they they played 601 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:15,919 them and then they analyzed what the 602 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:17,600 body language was saying 603 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:19,760 so this is one this is an interview that 604 00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:21,440 was done on meet the press 605 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:24,559 uh with leon panetta and uh he's a 606 00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:25,120 former 607 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:28,159 and 608 00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:33,200 the reason i picked this one is 609 00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:35,360 basically uh because uh 610 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:37,039 this is one that i missed it's uh one 611 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:39,280 that we never got a chance to 612 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:42,240 uh listen to and uh go back over and i 613 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:43,919 have to tell you the comments from these 614 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:45,280 guys are very telling 615 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:48,480 and uh going forward i might i might 616 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:50,320 learn a little bit about body language 617 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,559 and do some body language reading myself 618 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:53,600 i basically 619 00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,000 when we've uh played those videos of uh 620 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,240 guys like brennan and obama and biden 621 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,240 when we've played those videos i just 622 00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:02,400 sort of analyzed what i was looking at 623 00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,360 and uh 624 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,200 and what i heard basically what i heard 625 00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:07,120 and what i saw these guys look at things 626 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:09,039 a little bit differently and here's 627 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:12,000 uh what they uh saw so let's uh let's 628 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:12,880 run 629 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,600 this uh clip with leon panetta and their 630 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,200 their analysis and then i'll talk about 631 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:18,880 their analysis afterwards i'll 632 00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:21,360 i'll analyze their analysis when you've 633 00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:22,440 seen this 634 00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:25,840 unidentifiable stuff is your presumption 635 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:26,400 that 636 00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:34,720 we somehow don't have or or are we 637 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:38,240 over are we sort of over assuming 638 00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,200 uh the abilities of china and russia and 639 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:43,200 that the only other explanation is 640 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:45,679 if it's not us ourselves that it's 641 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,909 well chuck it's obviously been going on 642 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:53,280 for a long time and there's a lot of 643 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,480 speculation 644 00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:57,120 i've never seen any evidence that any of 645 00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,000 this is related 646 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:01,200 to extraterrestrial human beings or or 647 00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:05,520 beings of any kind and for that reason i 648 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:08,559 i've always thought that even though we 649 00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:10,400 we have these sightings and i guess the 650 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,919 report that's coming out is going to 651 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:13,440 basically acknowledge 652 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,120 that there are a lot of sightings they 653 00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:17,679 haven't tied it to being ufos 654 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:21,280 in the sense of relating it to 655 00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:25,360 enemies in space but i believe a lot of 656 00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:26,000 this stuff 657 00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:29,280 probably could be uh countries like 658 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:29,840 russia 659 00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:33,120 like china like others uh who are 660 00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:36,640 you know using uh now drones uh using 661 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:39,679 uh the kind of sophisticated weaponry 662 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:42,720 that uh you know could very well be 663 00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,360 involved 664 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,360 in a lot of these sightings so i think 665 00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:47,919 that's the area to go to very frankly 666 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:50,240 in order to identify what's happening 667 00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:51,760 all right 668 00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:58,000 so i think uh his blank rates through 669 00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,280 the roof 670 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,880 from the beginning and this is something 671 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,799 that changed before we started watching 672 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,720 this video so you could see the subject 673 00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:06,720 start to come up and his blink rate 674 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:10,080 started going up to ludicrous speed 675 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:13,280 to use some space terminology and 676 00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,640 when he's saying there's a report that's 677 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:16,880 coming out we see galloping shoulders 678 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,760 kind of a single shrug on both shoulders 679 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:21,200 one at a time 680 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,240 which i would suggest is a 681 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:27,120 doubt in the confidence of what he's 682 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:29,440 saying or lack of confidence 683 00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:32,080 and when he's saying i believe a lot of 684 00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:33,679 this stuff there's a no head 685 00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:36,960 shake this is one of those times we tell 686 00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,280 you 687 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:39,280 that it doesn't always mean that this is 688 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:40,480 what it looks like and 689 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,720 i think when a person doesn't fully 690 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:44,159 agree with what they're saying and they 691 00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:47,520 are saying no to what they're saying and 692 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,720 there is a whole lot of couching 693 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:53,520 statements in true behavior panel 694 00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,720 fashion i'm going to read them to you 695 00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:56,480 just real quick 696 00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,880 we're going to say basically believe 697 00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:00,000 probably could be 698 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:03,679 i believe like like like like others 699 00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:07,200 kind of could very well i think 700 00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,279 so nothing is for certain whatsoever 701 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:14,000 in the entire statement uh not even his 702 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,200 confidence in his 703 00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,320 own opinions and this is 704 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,559 not in his baseline if you've seen him 705 00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,400 he's a big powerful government official 706 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,919 he was a secretary of defense when i 707 00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:25,440 joined the military 708 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:29,279 and he doesn't do this i've seen him in 709 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:30,240 person 710 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,080 and i've never seen any behavior like 711 00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:34,240 this so he was a secretary of defense he 712 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:34,799 was 713 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:39,279 went around all areas of dc 714 00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:47,190 not in his baseline scott 715 00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,480 all right when i go last uh damn so greg 716 00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,799 where don't you go next sure and now i'm 717 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:54,320 going to get my opportunity to be on 718 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:56,080 ancient aliens or something i guarantee 719 00:25:05,029 --> 00:24:56,559 you with 720 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,350 so again chase this guy's pretty 721 00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:09,520 contained and pretty calm typically he's 722 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,240 a big 723 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,320 powerful man in his life i met him when 724 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,159 i was stationed at dick's 725 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,559 together guy what's interesting is when 726 00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:17,760 they bring up 727 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,240 russia and china his blink rate is 728 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,600 already fast but then it 729 00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,039 you know he gets his eyelids just 730 00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,360 fluttering like crazy then 731 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:27,520 these three things together make me go 732 00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:30,080 hmm maybe there is something to this 733 00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,159 when he says i have never seen 734 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,520 grief muscle boom grief muscle comes up 735 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:38,799 why is there a grief muscle when he says 736 00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,720 i've never seen this then he does a 737 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:42,480 nervous laugh 738 00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:45,039 then he looks down to the right and then 739 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,240 he goes back 740 00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:48,000 and he does lip compression i'm just 741 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,679 going to stop right there 742 00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:51,840 and say i don't know why all of that 743 00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,720 happened 744 00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:54,880 i'm not looking for i'm not ufo hunting 745 00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:56,320 and saying hey he knows where the ufos 746 00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,039 are 747 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,360 this is out of character and those 748 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,440 things indicate deception 749 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:03,520 then when he gets back to the adversary 750 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:07,120 stuff his grief muscle comes up again 751 00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:10,000 something's up in this whole messaging 752 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,240 and 753 00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:11,760 out of character for a guy who has been 754 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,510 okay well that was a pretty interesting 755 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,520 exchange and i'm telling you the entire 756 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,120 hour and 40 minutes 757 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,799 features a lot of that kind of back and 758 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,240 forth amongst 759 00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,360 these uh intel body language analysts 760 00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:30,159 so it's a very interesting and uh you 761 00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:30,400 know 762 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:33,600 like i say it i i strongly recommend it 763 00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,760 uh that you give it a look i'll like i 764 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:37,279 said i'll post the link 765 00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,440 and basically the entire time 766 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:43,679 nobody who's being asked these questions 767 00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:45,440 whether it's bush or whether it's 768 00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,159 clinton 769 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,919 uh whether it's obama whether it's the 770 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:49,760 various uh former intel 771 00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:52,720 chiefs john brennan panetta who we saw 772 00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,360 they 773 00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,520 hate talking about this subject it's 774 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:57,120 very interesting 775 00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:00,320 these guys uh don't really uh 776 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,760 draw any uh final conclusions as to why 777 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,480 but the the whole thing is uh like i 778 00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:08,480 said it's why at the top of the show 779 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:11,279 i uh called this the the ufo stink bomb 780 00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:12,480 report because uh 781 00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:15,120 uh people aren't uh liking the fact that 782 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,159 powerful people 783 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,240 aren't liking the fact that uh this 784 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:20,159 subject is even on the table i think 785 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:21,360 that's pretty clear 786 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,200 and another thing that they go through 787 00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:25,360 which we didn't get in that particular 788 00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:26,240 segment 789 00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:29,679 is uh the actual comments that uh all 790 00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:31,200 these uh all these folks are making the 791 00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:32,720 presidents and the intel chiefs are 792 00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,360 making 793 00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,760 uh they sort of have they hit the same 794 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,279 talking points they do it 795 00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,880 they use different words they do it in 796 00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,799 their own style but they're hitting the 797 00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,559 same talking points as if 798 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:43,919 you know even though they're on the 799 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,000 outside uh they're they're basically 800 00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,559 getting briefed on this too and 801 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:50,559 they're they're pretty much being kept 802 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,600 on the same page 803 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,600 either you know by their own volition 804 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,880 yeah they want to go along with the 805 00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:55,600 program 806 00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,760 or you know i don't think it's the case 807 00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:59,440 that they're being coerced in any way 808 00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:01,120 but uh they're they're all on the same 809 00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,640 page with this uh they're all 810 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,799 on the same program so it's very 811 00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:06,480 interesting very interesting 812 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:09,279 uh to see what will be coming up uh 813 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:10,159 hopefully 814 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,320 say like i said i don't expect anything 815 00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,640 but uh maybe it's just as well because 816 00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:18,399 uh the last uh 817 00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:21,760 this past week since uh the the nasa and 818 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,720 the leak about what's going to be in uh 819 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:26,720 the ufo report in the new york times 820 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,360 story 821 00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:29,279 we've had a little bit less news this 822 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:31,039 week but it's given me a little bit of 823 00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:32,640 time to kind of spelunk around 824 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:35,120 and find some different stuff to talk 825 00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,960 about again that getting 826 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,640 the perspective from some folks who 827 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,360 aren't ufo guys so they're not ufo guys 828 00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,480 very interesting to get their 829 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:44,559 perspective very interesting to get the 830 00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:45,520 perspective of 831 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,120 harrison weinstein you know 832 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,760 hearing what they have to say again with 833 00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,440 weinstein it's uh basically a lot of 834 00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:54,880 stuff on twitter so 835 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:58,080 i really uh uh you know i really don't 836 00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,440 have anything all i would say is 837 00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:01,760 go to twitter and follow eric weinstein 838 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:03,760 and see for yourself but uh 839 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:06,480 he's uh obviously uh on the uh pro ufo 840 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,760 page or at least 841 00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:09,600 you know we need to know more about this 842 00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,360 page so uh who knows 843 00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:13,120 what those uh everything those guys are 844 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,559 hearing on the back channel 845 00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,360 uh i would warn them both uh uh don't be 846 00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:19,440 entirely trusting on what you hear in 847 00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,399 that back channel 848 00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:22,799 uh but it does exist uh sometimes maybe 849 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,200 it's a a little exaggerated uh but it 850 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:27,360 but it's there and it's a phenomenon 851 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,120 just like the ufo phenomenon 852 00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,840 obviously the main thing that you want 853 00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:33,120 to find out more about 854 00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:36,399 is the ufo phenomenon itself but uh it's 855 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:37,440 always interesting 856 00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:40,240 how people go about the ufo phenomenon 857 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,640 and 858 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,039 we'll analyze both even if i would uh 859 00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,880 much prefer to be spending time talking 860 00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,799 about the former rather than the latter 861 00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,480 so that's really about it short show 862 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:50,880 enjoy your weekend and uh maybe 863 00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:52,880 i'll be back next week with something 864 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,919 else uh 865 00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:55,360 there's enough going on enough 866 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,200 interesting stuff to talk about to fill 867 00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,520 uh maybe a half hour 45 minutes maybe 868 00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,360 not and uh who knows 869 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:03,360 maybe i'll turn up an interview i can't 870 00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:04,880 say for sure uh but 871 00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,320 uh i i can assure you that my plans are 872 00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:10,559 as soon as this ufo report comes out 873 00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,039 uh to pour over it and get a show up on 874 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,279 the air uh very very quickly uh 875 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:17,760 like i said i'd be very shocked if it 876 00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,640 happens that 877 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:21,279 uh this coming week i think it'll be on 878 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,240 time right now 879 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,919 i don't think it'll get delayed either 880 00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,600 because of uh 881 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:27,279 you know uh the media is on the story 882 00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,640 they're talking about it 883 00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:31,039 so uh uh that's about all i've got uh 884 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,559 you have a good weekend 885 00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,320 and i'll be talking to you as soon as